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Saturday, August 16, 2003 Despite this apparent rivarly we're having with Ivyjews, I'm declaring a hudna long enough to compliment Larisa for an excellent roundup of self-hating conservative Jews. The only thing I'd add is that Dr. Laura's original statement might just have been a result of feeling disenfranchised with Orthodoxy; I guess she's entitled to feel that way, and I don't think there was anything evil per se in that. However, the fanmail that she put on her website is a bit upsetting: "I think that you hit the nail on the head when you said that you have Christian friends who are close to God and feel so loved by God. I find it very saddening that some churches or religions put tradition first and the focus of a beautiful, loving relationship with Jesus second."Larisa rightly translates: Thanks for using your status as a Jew to say what we Christians know is the truth but aren't allowed to say because of all those pesky Jews who'll cry anti-Semitism: that Christianity is obviously far superior to Judaism. It's really sad how Judaism is totally devoid of spirituality and obsessed with stupid pointless rituals, and it's great to hear that from an insider.Good job Larisa, and I suppose that the inter-blog sniping can start up again, refreshed, after this little truce... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 10:19 PM | Ananova - Churches told to ditch 'Jesus on a cross' image: Traditional approaches such as showing Jesus on the cross and Bible quotations are a turn-off to non-churchgoers, according to one of two suggested advertising campaigns drawn up by agencies.Interesting to see that they're having the same problems that we are. Hear a cute drasha, gorge yourself at the Kiddush, socialize on the steps outside, but try not to think about, say, God. UPDATE: Yuter notes the resemblence this story has to the Buddy Christ from Kevin Smith's Dogma. Life really does imitate art. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 10:02 PM | WorldNetDaily: Real-life raiders hunt Ark of the Covenant. Remember, these are the people who think that they found the remains of Noah's Ark, so take whatever they saw with a pillar of salt. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:50 PM |Friday, August 15, 2003 Without Elder I
Irony of the Day: Islamic Jihad leader accidentally blows himself up. Group vows revenge. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 2:35 PM |Bryan takes on the Bible Critics by linking to an important article on the range of frum-academic response to the issue going all the way back. I like his comment on education as well: As I have discussed previously a couple of time, one of the issues currently in the Jewish community is how Jewish education seems to be failing those students who choose to attend a regular university. One of the problems I believe plagues the students is the lack of challenge that the students face in high school. Students are not asked to think about what they are studying, nor are they encouraged that their questions have merit and have been asked for 1000 years in various forms. This is true in regards to philosophical thought, historical analysis, and even the issue of the nature of the Bible. It is not enough anymore to merely recite a serious of Ani Maamin's every morning. We need to understand how the Rambam viewed Torah M'Sinai as well how other medievals dealt with this subject.That argument has tons of merit, but I just want to add a proviso. I don't know what types of questions Bryan's classmates had in High School, but I can tell you that at least for me and mine, things like qri/ketiv, different text-types, or the Documentary Hypothesis weren't major issues (although once I got past high school and got into academic Jewish Studies I sort of had to develop approaches to deal with things like that). The major issues back in the day were "how do you know God exists", "why do I have to do these things", and "what's the point". I do think that high schools should be spending time looking at and discussing sources on that sort of stuff so that, as Bryan said, kids get the picture that really smart people have been asking their questions for 1000s of years and have developed approaches towards dealing with them. The more technical things, like Bible Criticism, I think are more specialized. Lots of really intelligent Jews have lived religiously meaningful lives and never touched this stuff, simply because it has nothing to do with them. That's fine, too, you know. You don't need to be conversant with the medieval approaches to qri/ketiv to live a religiously meaningful life. The specialized things, I think, should be introduced as a class or individual students express interest in them (or maybe in an honors class or something, where the point is to expose the kids to a lot). The general stuff should be incorporated into regular curriculums, where the kids that aren't going to become the intellectuals of tomorrow at least get the tools to go about religion in a thoughtful sort of way. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 11:23 AM | I saw the headline "Yeshiva College falls victim to business dispute", and I thought for a second that "Yeshiva College" meant, well, Yeshiva College. However, its really talking about that Austrailian Joe Gutnick thing (see here for more info). Still, not a happy situation. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:57 AM |Thursday, August 14, 2003 In case you were wondering, I did some research into my name being attached to a Jewish Press letter I didn't write. In fact, I emailed the editor thusly: I saw the most recent letters to the editor section on the internet last night, which included a letter from an Avraham Bronstein from NY, NY. This was somewhat startling, since that happens to be my name and address. I never wrote that letter, although I have submitted letters in the past. Therefore, I'm wondering if a) there was some kind of mistake, b) there's someone else with my name in NYC, or c) someone's stealing my identity. I'd appreciate if you could look into this.Only to receive in response: Hold the presses! The ONLY Avraham Bronstein on the island of Manhattan spots an obvious imposter or perhaps an editing mix-up and wonders what's going on. Understandable, of course, since the name Avraham Bronstein is so delightfully rare in a city like New York. Unlike the thousands of Dominic Goldbergs, Theresa Halberstams and Yudel Christophers, of course. Can anyone spell EGO?I think this speaks for itself, even as much as I may have deserved something like that. According to the internet White pages, for those keeping score, there's one other Avraham Bronstein in all of NYC, and he lives in Queens, NY. My parents always told me I was special... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 12:57 PM | No blogging for me today; I'm heading on a plane soon. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 12:55 PM |The Chareidi world discovers Birthright. Reaction? Typical: Recently it was learned [Birthright] is expanding its activities to include bnei yeshivos from the U.S. Roshei yeshivos and marbitzei Torah from the U.S. issued an announcement warning parents that the program poses a genuine spiritual danger to their sons and daughters, including compromising their standards of tznius and kashrus and presenting opinions inconsistent with the Torah view.There're even better lines in the article. Read the whole thing. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 12:38 PM | Reader Amitai notes that the word "superstitious" stems from the root word "supersisto", which means "to stand in terror of the deity". Now, the Hebrew term for Ultra-Orthodox Jews is "Chareidim", which literally means "those who tremble [before God]". Does that mean that Chareidim are superstitious or that Chareidi-ism is superstition almost by defintion? Hmmm...
Reader Janik points out that there are other Jews in legal trouble besides the terrrorist co-conspirator. Take Victor Jacobowitz and his three sons, Herman, Jacob and Aaron: The cosmetics business was not as big as they said it was. The chief executives of one of the largest companies on Long Island lied about that to borrow more money, and defrauded investors, prosecutors say.Communal reaction? In Williamsburg, members of the Hasidic community were quick to speak out in support of Victor Jacobowitz, whom they described as well known for giving away huge sums of money, to organizations and individuals.Well, come on. What did you expect? posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:39 AM | Wednesday, August 13, 2003 Amazingly enough, it was again really hard to find a truly Stupid Letter of the Week in this week's Jewish Press. They may be on to me. However, I do think I can pull out a Stupid Passage from one letter, a response to Rachel Weiss, who complained last week about Jews of the female persuasion wishing her husband "Good Shabbas". Weiss marshalled some halakhic sources to the effect of curtailing conversation across gender lines. Sol Zeller responds: "After reading Rachel Weiss`s letter, I can see why our sages in their wisdom never allowed women to become rabbis. She cites many halachic sources for why a man should not have a conversation with a woman. However only a competent rav can interpret these sources as farMeredith's (still unaddressed) arguments aside, its hard for me to believe that this proves that women shouldn't be rabbis. As far as I can tell, it merely proves that Rachel Weiss shouldn't be one. Is he claiming that all women lack the ability to interpret halakhic sources? Hard to say. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 10:46 PM | Yuter finds an article with more details on the Jewish terrorist accomplice dude. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 10:31 PM |Before we begin the Stupid Letter Of the Week competition this week, I want to make a public declaration. The following letter was not written by me: "Secularist MindsetOverall a pretty good letter, but I just want to again make it clear that I didn't write it. I don't care what the signature line says. When I do write to the Jewish Press again, I'll let you all know. You can be sure of that... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:36 PM | Our application to Google AdSense got rejected, because we're of the wrong "Page Type" Page type: Your website is a type of website that we do not currently accept into our program. Such websites include, but are not limitedposted by Steven I. Weiss | 7:29 PM | Jewish Ombudsman: Slate's Smear Job, on Hitchens & Pipes. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 6:35 PM |Great editorial in today's Times on the Fox-Al Franken catfight.
Well, it seems that they've started officially pressing charges against the missle-smugglers. More disturbing (thanks to reader Poupko): A third man, Yehuda Abraham, 76, of New York, is due to appear in federal court in Manhattan later today....Abraham is accused of handling an initial payment of $30,000 for the missile that was smuggled into the U.S. as part of the sting.A Jewish guy in with the terrorists?? This can't be good... UPDATE: if you go to wnbc.com's video feeds, you can get a look at him. Looks Jewish to me... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 2:14 PM | Need help on Hitchens.
Adi Neuman writes an op-ed for Jewsweek about his ba'al teshuva experience. I am only one of a rapidly growing population of disillusioned young men and women who have fled the secular world of our parents in favor of a more intense and meaningful Jewish life. Many of us went to college and graduate school burning with youthful idealism, only to discover that the aspiring social worker and teacher were no more respected by our peers than the aspiring cosmetic surgeon and tobacco attorney. Money is king in the world of the young, and superficiality and materialism reign supreme.I'm not sure what to think of that strategy, tell you the truth, although it doesn't leave me with a comfortable feeling... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 1:47 PM | Sorry for the longass post, but I have gotten riled up, and my righteous fury needs an outlet:
Rabbi who solicited sex from a police officer posing as a 13-year-old cops a plea and gets no jail time. Kestenbaum even set up a "date" with "Katie" at a Starbucks on Dey Street in the Financial District. He left after "Katie" didn't show up.So he's still on the streets. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 10:48 AM | Yedidiah annotates the Bangitout frum intellectual list. Given what Elders and readers had to say about the list here and here, I'll let you draw your own conclusions. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 10:39 AM |Gedankenpundit's on a bit of a blogging break, so now's a good time to read the debate he had with a reader about Judaism, Islam and terrorism. Start here and scroll up. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 10:00 AM |Aidel Maidel has a series of interesting posts dealing with anti-Semitism, crime, and the Holocaust, doctor/patient boundaries and shiva calls, kallahs on birth control, and her own struggle to get pregnant. She's doing a great job so far, it'd be interesting to see if she'll keep it up. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 9:54 AM |I happened to have just checked out the hit counter, and our most recent page view came from the Department of Justice. Uh-oh. If you never hear from us again, you'll know why... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:18 AM |Yuter sends in this Kabbalah Center blurb from an MSNBC.com gossip column: Kabbalah is the celeb religion of the moment, but the Kabbalah Center’s Rabbi Yehuda Berg insists the group doesn’t seek out stars. “They come and find us, and we treat them the same as everyone else who wants to study Kabbalah,” Berg told the London Daily Telegraph. “Demi Moore just walked in one day and we welcomed her. With Madonna, it was the same.” . . .Take that as you will. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 8:59 AM | Well, in regard to Elder Avraham's last post about the bangitout.com foray into Jewish intellectual typecasting, (non)reader Ari Schick has submitted a rejoinder list that rectifies the original list's flaws. Surprisingly, some of Mr. Schick's comments (composed early midday on August 12) seem eerily familiar to those posted later in response to Elder Avraham's entry bringing the list to our readers' attention. Maybe there is something to this honest-to-goodness Jewish intellectual thing. Or perhaps THEY have formed a secret conspiracy to take over the intellectual world - though between their plot and ours, its amazing that anything gets accomplished at all, what with all these secret cabals working at cross-purposes all over the place.
Tuesday, August 12, 2003 Bangitout.com has the top 10 ways to tell whether you're a frum intellectual. I'd retitle the list "Jewish pretentious pseudo-intellectual" myself, but I didn't make it up... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 7:32 PM |Concern about the rise of anti-Semitism in America seems not to have passed by unnoticed by The Christian Right. Gotta love the irony. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 7:21 PM |Intelligence in Action: "An Air France co-pilot was in police custody Saturday after allegedly telling a security screener at John F. Kennedy International Airport that he had a bomb in his shoe." posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 7:05 PM |TMQ's back!! TMQ's back!! Oh, happy days are here again... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 6:51 PM |HUGE NEWS: ADL ATTENDS SCREENING OF THE PASSION. I'm checking out of the office, and will post more later. Lots to talk about. (Thanks, James) posted by Steven I. Weiss | 5:27 PM |During a meeting last week, the new White House liaison to the Jewish community, Tevy Troy, told a cute story meant to highlight the tenacity and determination of American Jewish organizations. [Here is a paraphrased version of the story] In January 2001, after an accelerated transition between administrations, the White House switchboard was a mess. The main line to the White House had no way to direct calls to anyone. The list of officials corresponding to their offices did not exist. People within the White House could not reach each other and those outside the WH could not get in.This meeting was covered by Forward campaign confidential correspondent E.J. Kessler. posted by Anonymous | 4:57 PM | If you haven’t JihadUnspun yet, you are truly missing out. Their headlines alone are worth the trip. Please note that there is not such thing as Israel and even the Zionist Entity does not exist. I think that if the authors had it their way, Jews would not exist, but that is jut this commentators opinion.
Both of today’s suicide bombers came from the same Palestinian refugee camp in Nablus
Exit US stage right. Kabul is no longer President Bush’s problem, Afghanistan as a whole is next. Too bad, Bush cannot shift the federal deficit to NATO’s control too, or can he. Hmmm…
Having gotten over my burst of sentimentality, I revert to my usual sardonic cynicism...
Israel's military says there have been 120 shooting incidents in the West Bank and 10 mortars fired on Israeli targets in the Gaza Strip since the cease-fire was declared.This of course, does not count the suicide bombers. For our Palestinian "militant" readership: cease-fire or cease•fireposted by Anonymous | 1:36 PM | Just when you thought you'd seen it all, a shul in Israel takes the Chumra-Of-The-Month Club to a new level (Hebrew). Apparently, seperate seating is only the beginning. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 11:42 AM |IvyJew's Larisa uncovers our plot in California: The other recent [Gray] Davis appointee to the UC Board of Regents is Howard Blum who is the husband of U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein. Feinstein as well as the other California U.S. Senator, Barbara Boxer, are both Jewish. These two additional Jewish UC Regents signifies the vast consolidation of their power within the University of California and greatly diminishes the hopes that a Latino will be appointed Chancellor of UC Riverside to replace outgoing Chancellor Raymond L. Orbach who is also a Jew. The other two Zionists are Norman J. Pattiz appointed September 21, 2001 and Sherry L. Lansing appointed March 11, 1999. These machinations reminds us of Protocol 16 of the yet unauthenticated and much debated "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". Protocol 16 calls for the taking over of the universities in order to control higher education and the "mind conditioning" of youths.Well, considering the success that the Elders have collectively enjoyed trying to finish YU would probably allay any fears you might have... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 11:36 AM | I'd been hearing that people have been getting Jewsweek and The Jewish Week confused, which I thought was impossible, since they're such different publications and, really, they are different names. I thought it was impossible, that is, until I saw it confused in a blog. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 10:29 AM |Well, Terry Tate, Office Linebacker, is officially running in the California recall election. Can we stop taking this seriously yet? posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 9:51 AM |Julian Sanchez wonders why you can't get a drink at something called "the Gestapo Bar," but stopping by "the KGB Bar" is perfectly OK. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 8:52 AM |Hassidic Musician is becoming the Henny Youngman of the J-blogosphere, rattling off one-liners frequently. Yesterday, he wrote If a new Yisroel Williger CD is released, and no one buys it, will it still make a sound?posted by Steven I. Weiss | 8:47 AM | Idiotarian finds a shocking BBC article on Egyptian anti-Semitism, which basically allows members of the media there to deny that they're being anti-Semitic, while justifying their assertions that the situation in Israel is comparable to Nazism. Usually, in a piece dealing with such outrageous comments, there will be a follow-up discussion that will wonder about whether opposing viewpoints should have been presented; the question becomes "Aren't the statements ludicrous enough on their face, and won't offering a response to them justify it?" But not only does this article seem unconcerned with contesting the viewpoints expressed, but, in the conclusion, actually agrees with them: The use of anti-Semitic imagery in the Egyptian media may seem bizarre, racist and anachronistic to outsiders.What mind-blowingly crappy journalism. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 8:41 AM | I've updated my Hitchens post a few times tonight; it's now about six screens long, and I think I'm pretty much done. We'll see what comes of it. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 2:35 AM |And finally, on the politics making strange bedfellows front:
Pantheists of the world, unite!
The organization now has more than 2,000 members and anticipates that there are millions upon millions of pantheists out there who just don’t know there is a name—or group—for their beliefs. But here’s the question: If pantheism has been around forever, why organize now? After all, modern pantheists seem to pride themselves on how amorphous and unstructured their practice actually is. It can be a religion, a philosophy, or simply a way of life; rituals are strictly optional—some pantheists choose to celebrate solstices and equinoxes and Thoreau’s birthday; others, like Harrison, choose to spend at least half an hour every day exploring nature—and many pantheist traditions seem right in line with the environmental activism already espoused by many organized groups.What's next for those lonely pantheists out there? Why opt to merely "bump into" a fellow pantheist by chance? Why not do a tu b'av tie in with the bangitout.com party - we can pair up pantheists, and they can worship the trees as a couple! This idea's a winner, people.... posted by Anonymous | 12:01 AM | Monday, August 11, 2003 And in the English as a Second language Department:
"Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, who has repeatedly condemned the fence as a 'big crime against humanity,' has instructed the Palestinian media and leadership to put increased emphasis on the issue with the hope that US and European pressure would force Israel to halt the project or change the route of the fence. "So, are there little crimes against humanity? Petty humanity thefts perhaps, or maybe lewd conduct in public against humanity? Good thing he didn't pull out all the stops in his critique, or else he'd be accusing Israel of committing a REALLY big crime against humanity... posted by Anonymous | 11:51 PM | WorldNetDaily: God strikes 'gay' radio station with lightning?: A homosexual webcasting radio station claims its facility was struck by lightning, frying critical phone equipment, and that an anti-'gay' activist's prayers are responsible for the hit.I'm not sure where the radio network said that the prayer caused the lightning as much as they said that the lightning came a few weeks after the prayer. Still, weird story... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 10:56 PM | Whichever one of you readers got to this page by searching for "chassidish naked girls"...well, um...forget it. I have nothing to say here at all. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 8:42 PM |Apparently President Bush requested the services of Jack Van Impe Ministries International. Based on the "Prophecy Movies" page on their website, I hope Bush was treating them like I treat LandOver Baptist. Probably not, though. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 7:39 PM |Religion and universities. Yesterday's NYT fronted this story on the legal question of whether teaching religion in a university context could be raising First Amendment issues. The main subject, Teresa Becker, had a state scholarship revoked when she declared herself a Religion major, receiving a letter that said: "Students enrolled in a course of study leading to a degree in theology, divinity or religious education are not eligible to receive an award," it said, paraphrasing a state law. "Your award has changed from $2,750.00 to $0.00."Thus far, she filed suit in Federal District Court and the judge "issued a preliminary ruling in her favor, saying the state had probably engaged in religious discrimination." Which raises the oft-discussed question of whether the State's not endorsing a religion forces it not to fund anything related to religion. The Supremes are set to rule on a similar case next term. Eleven states prohibit aid for the study of theology. In addition to Michigan and Washington, they are New York, New Jersey, Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota and Wisconsin, according to a supporting brief filed in the Supreme Court by five state attorneys general. Reader Yuter sends in a link to this story on Baylor's move to enter the top tier while remaining religiously-focused. It lists a series of universities ostensibly working under semi-religious auspices: Brandeis, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Yeshiva. Notre Dame and Georgetown are Catholic but celebrate their diversity and intellectual openness. Brandeis, near Boston, says it is a "Jewish-sponsored university" that welcomes students and faculty of every nationality and religion. New York's Yeshiva is an independent university "under Jewish auspices" that touts its commitment to scholarship through "Jewish and secular studies."posted by Steven I. Weiss | 5:01 PM | The "Superfreak Rabbi" is actually a real Lubavitcher, and Jewsweek interviewed him for its upcoming issue. Here's a teaser: Roger Marks may not be a household name, but if you're flipping channels late at night you may catch the lubavitcher -- beard, back hat, and all -- dancing on TV. Dubbed the "super freak" rabbi from those ubiquitous BuyMusic.com ads, Marks is making a career out of playing a Chassidic rabbi from Malcolm in the Middle to a Burger King commercial. But Marks is not alone. At open casting calls, he's not the only rabbi look-alike on hand. "I did a Snickers commercial and it was like dueling rabbis ... we had a chuckling contest," he told Jewsweek. A full profile of the Lubavitcher actor will appear in the upcoming issue of Jewsweek.We'll link to the story when it gets online. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 4:24 PM | Christopher Hitchens wants to lay the smackdown on Daniel Pipes. I'm no fan of Pipes, and neither is Hitchens, apparently. In typical Hitchens fashion, he focuses on a few key incidents from Pipes' past to try to discredit the individual entirely. He writes of the lifting of the fatwah on Salman Rushdie, But not to Pipes, who weighed in with a sour, sophomoric article arguing that nothing whatsoever had changed and that the Iranian authorities were as committed to Rushdie's elimination as ever. His "sources" were a few clips from the Iranian press and a few stray statements from extremists. That was five years ago. Today, Salman Rushdie lives in New York without body guards and travels freely, and there are leading Shiite voices raised in Iran in favor of the coalition's successful demolition of the Iraqi Baath Party. To put it bluntly, I suspect that Pipes is so consumed by dislike that he will not recognize good news from the Islamic world even when it arrives. And this makes him dangerous and unreliable.I'll have to get around to reading that article later today. Hitchens' second attack is far less credible: Then, I heard recently, Pipes has maintained that professor Edward Said of Columbia University is not really a Palestinian and never lost his family home in Jerusalem in the fighting of 1947-48.Hitchens heard? What kind of fact-checking did that involve? It's a pretty irresponsible move -- especially given that Slate is a Web publication and any link pointing to a quote would suffice. How such a claim got past Slate's editors I cannot understand. The next sentence refers to the claim about Said as a "much-discredited libel." Again, without any sourcing whatsoever (how hard is it to insert a link?). Hitchens then asserts that "Said is deservedly respected for his long advocacy of mutual recognition between Israelis and Palestinians," seemingly to impugn Pipes for his "libel" -- but Pipes is a respected man himself; is Hitchens becoming the decisor among the "respected" and "deservedly respected"? Hitchens then continues in the same paragraph that Pipes "den[ied] history" with his February 2003 Commentary article (I found the link in about 15 seconds -- why can't Hitchens?). Compare and contrast: Hitchens writes, In the February 2003 issue of Commentary magazine, he wrote an attack on the "road map" proposals, which included the words "the so-called Palestinian refugees," and which by other crude tricks of language insinuated that there had been no Palestinian dispossession in the first place. In which case, there is obviously nothing to negotiate about, is there? It's one thing to argue, as many Palestinians are prepared to do, that not every refugee can expect "the right of return." It's quite another to deny history and to assert that there is no refugee problem to begin with.Now, does that in any seem to characterize the actual gist of what Pipes said? A bedrock condition of such a strategy—and one no less frustrating in the short term—is that Palestinian acceptance of Israel is a binary proposition: yes or no, without any in-between. This suggests, in turn, the futility of negotiations—at least until the Palestinians do accept the Jewish state. Such matters as borders, water, armaments, the status of Jerusalem, Jewish communities in the West Bank and Gaza, so-called Palestinian refugees—in brief, the central issues of the Oslo period—cannot productively be discussed as long as one party still aims to murder the other. In principle, something along the lines of the Oslo agreement could turn out to be workable—but only after the Palestinians definitively and unequivocally, and over an extended period of time, demonstrate that they have made their peace with the existence of the state of Israel as an irreversible fact.On the contrary, Pipes is including the refugee issue among a series of other legitimate matters worth negotiation -- Pipes' only point is that such negotiation cannot yet take place. Hitchens is, seemingly, wrong on the point of "other crude tricks of language," as well; or, at least, of the idea that they're prominent in the article -- I didn't find any others than that quote in my first perusal, and the article as a whole has very little to do with the refugee issue. And then there's the insinuation that Hitchens does: Pipes himself was forced to concede grudgingly that he had been in error when he described professor John Kelsay of Princeton and professor James Turner Johnson of Rutgers as having denied that the term "jihad" had any military meaning. I admire those who admit their mistakes, especially under the pressure of fact. But Pipes hasn't just been engaged in a dispute in print with other academics. He is the founder of Campus Watch, a Web-site crusade that purports to expose heretical or subversive teachers in America. It's not pleasant to think of such an organization being run by somebody who won't, or who can't, read the published work of more distinguished colleagues.He's trying to make it seem like Pipes' errors in one case unrelated to Campus Watch should reflect on his work there -- but Hitchens can't cite a single situation in which Campus Watch itself mischaracterized a professor's work. As to the point of "who won't, or who can't, read..." it is completely without context or meaning in this article. Whom is Hitchens saying Pipes doesn't read? And how can he possibly claim that there is someone Pipes "can't" read? There are reasons -- many, many reasons -- to disagree with Pipes in general and with his stance on the Israel/Palestine issue in specific, but Hitchens is attacking a Pipes who exists only in this Slate article -- not the real man. UPDATE: Upon returning home, I've read Pipes' article on Rushdie, and Hitchens' characterization of it comes rather close to an outright lie. Hitchens writes, His "sources" were a few clips from the Iranian press and a few stray statements from extremists.But Pipes' sources include Khomeini and the man who supposedly repudiated the fatwah to begin with! Even more, what Pipes' article goes to great lengths to describe is that the fatwa was not repudiated (and was actually not a "fatwa," but a "hukm") -- again, by citing the individual who is credited with having repudiated it -- and that it was a PR move that allowed it to be considered as such. Hitchens writes: One of the most frontal challenges from Islamic theocracy came in February 1989, when the Ayatollah Khomeini pronounced a sentence of death upon Salman Rushdie. There then followed a long campaign by writers and scholars and diplomats, culminating in September 1998 in a formal repudiation of the fatwa by the Iranian regime.How audacious to list that series of assertions before taking on an article that works to debunk those very assertions! If Hitchens wants to contest Pipes' claims, that's one thing -- but he just pretends that Pipes never really made them. Some of the errors in this article really seem worth being included in the next roundup of corrections at Slate. So now, almost every claim that Hitchens makes against Pipes relies on mischaracterizing the facts or what Pipes has said. Hitchens has ignored the truth to pursue his agenda. ANOTHER UPDATE: The only remaining point for Hitchens is the whole Said thing; yes, he doesn't have a source, but Pipes did indeed once claim that Said was "raised in Egypt." In searching for stories about the claim (originally made by Justus Reid Weiner in the September 1999 issue of Commentary), we find that Hitchens' most prominent source for debunking the claim may actually have been...Hitchens himself. This Guardian story about the controversy doesn't quote Said, but instead quotes our author: Prof Said, who teaches literature at Columbia university in New York, was reported to be travelling in Europe yesterday, but his friends denounced the attack as baseless and politically motivated.Here's a link to a story from after Said got back from vacation, but it's not loading at the moment, and isn't showing up on Nexis -- no clue why. Anyway, Weiner is apparently unaware that his claim's been discredited, having cited them again in an article printed just last month; Commentary, as well, seems to be sticking with the story, and cited it as recently as November of last year (via Nexis). The argument has also been cited as true in The Weekly Standard, in 2001 in Columbia's Spectator, New York Post, Denver Rocky Mountain News, among others. It was vigorously defended by Weiner in the January, 2000 issue of Commentary. Far from being a "much-discredited libel," the article actually seems to have maintained its credibility rather well over time, being dismissed by such idiocy as this article in the Village Voice; even Slate didn't dismiss Weiner's research. Also read Said's response and Hitchens' essay; from my perusal thus far, they fall rather short of discrediting Weiner. But getting back to Hitchens' specific claim here: Then, I heard recently, Pipes has maintained that professor Edward Said of Columbia University is not really a Palestinian and never lost his family home in Jerusalem in the fighting of 1947-48. I have my own disagreements with Said, but this is a much-discredited libel that undermines the credibility of anybody circulating it.He seems to be using the most general possible terms for Pipes' supposed argument, one's that don't require Weiner's article to be untrue in order to be found lacking. BTW: Here is the lone correction that Commentary ran on the story (via Nexis): IN Justus Reid Weiner's article, "'My Beautiful Old House' and Other Fabrications by Edward Said," which appeared last month, the sentence (page 25, column 2), "In that city lived Wadie Said's brother Boulos Yusef, his wife Nabiha, and their five children" should be amended to read: "In that city lived Wadie Said's sister Nabiha, her husband (and cousin) Boulos Yusef Said, and their five children." We regret the error.posted by Steven I. Weiss | 3:40 PM | WWBT? I'm not sure what this says about the state of Eastern spiritual traditions, but a Temple in Tokyo recently held a ceremony thanking pachinko (pinball) machines for being one of the few growth markets in Japan these days. In Friday's solemn ceremony, Buddhist monks in purple robes chanted sutras in front of a candle-lit, brocade-draped altar adorned with a golden replica of a pachinko machine.What Would the Buddha Think? posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 2:19 PM | For some reason I never got around to posting this before, but you should all check out Kavvanah, Professor Of The Elders Dr. Alan Brill's attempt to get us all spiritual about Judaism. The website needs work, but the thought's a good one...
Any Jersey J-bloggers out there? A reporter's doing a story and would love to hear from you. E-mail me for details. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 12:56 PM |Sunday, August 10, 2003 The real reason Meredith had to stop blogging; she couldn't avoid comparisons with these people: Does anyone know where I could purchase oversized stuffed dice (the kind you roll) for use as wedding shtick? (Think: BranDEIS)Received on the Washington Heights listserv. posted by Steven I. Weiss | 4:42 PM | CNN.com - HK store's Nazi theme sparks fury - Aug. 10, 2003: German and Israeli diplomats have lashed out at a Hong Kong fashion company for using swastikas and other Nazi party symbols in a clothing line and to decorate its chain of stores.Thought you should be aware... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 4:06 PM | I spent most of Shabbas afternoon reading Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, by Michael Oren, a really well-written and comprehensive account of the Six Day War. To quote every book report I ever wrote in grade school, "I enjoyed it greatly, and strongly recommend it to everyone in my age group." Despite being somewhat technical, it was a really really fun read, and the pace is close to Clancy's after he gets wound up (think the last 300 pages of Executive Orders or the last 200 pages of The Bear and The Dragon). The best passage in the book comes at the end, where the author has a discussion with Foud Ajami, professor of Middle East Studies at Johns Hopkins. FA:Could you let your readers in on one or two changes in your outlook that happened by the time the work was complete?Amen to that, for sure. posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 3:48 PM | New York Magazine's "Sexiest Rabbi," Balfour Brickner. Perhaps indicating a general age bias, the guy's really old. A while ago, I was asked to submit my pick for sexiest rabbi, and sent them over some pics of him; guess I just don't have the right vision for these things.
Meredith's blogging career, from Girlhock to Rejew seems to have drawn to a seemingly untimely conclusion. It was fun while it lasted... posted by Voice From The Hinterlands | 12:56 AM | |
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